Let’s Ask Arty About What the Founding Fathers Said About Religion in Government

Let’s Ask Arty uses existing Artificial Intelligence (AI) technology to query LLMs about politics in these troubled times.

Query: Did the forefathers who drafted the US constitution warn about the dangers of state sanctioned religion? Can you provide a list of the warnings about religion in government?

The Founding Fathers were deeply concerned about the entanglement of religion and government, and they left behind a trail of warnings, principles, and legal safeguards to prevent state-sanctioned religion. Their views were shaped by centuries of religious conflict in Europe and the oppressive state churches many colonists had fled.

Constitutional Safeguards

First Amendment: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.” This dual clause protects both freedom from government-imposed religion and freedom of personal religious practice.

Article VI: Prohibits religious tests for public office — a radical move at the time, ensuring that no one could be excluded from government based on faith.

Founders’ Warnings and Beliefs:

James Madison:

  • Warned that if Congress could define “general welfare,” it might “take the care of religion into their own hands” — appointing teachers, funding churches, and undermining limited government.
  • Championed the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom alongside Jefferson, opposing religious taxes and state interference.

Thomas Jefferson:

  • Coined the phrase “wall of separation between Church & State” in a letter to the Danbury Baptists, assuring them that government would not interfere in religious matters.
  • Authored the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom, declaring that no person should suffer for religious opinions.

Benjamin Franklin:

  • Believed that corruption would lead people to demand despotism, including religious control, if they became “incapable of any other” form of government.

John Adams:

  • Declared: “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” While he valued religion’s moral influence, he opposed state endorsement of any particular faith.

George Washington:

  • In his Farewell Address, warned against the “baneful effects of the spirit of party” and the consolidation of power — including religious authority — in one branch of government

Philosophical Foundations:

Many founders were influenced by Enlightenment thinkers like John Locke, who argued that belief cannot be coerced and that religious liberty is a natural right.

They saw religious pluralism as essential to civic virtue and feared that state religion would lead to tyranny, division, and persecution.

My Input

Today’s MAGA Republican party lends vocal and legislative support for injecting Christianity into our government and embracing Christian nationalist rhetoric, which threatens to erode America’s secular rule of law and Jefferson’s “wall of separation between Church & State.”

There is a growing trend in the Trump administration (which is becoming increasingly authoritarian) to integrate Christianity with politics. Historically, Fascist governments have used religion to legitimize their rule, unify support, and suppress dissent.

With some help from Arty, here are some notable examples of how religion is infecting our politics:

Support for Declaring the U.S. a Christian Nation

  • According to a University of Maryland poll, 61% of Republicans support officially declaring the United States a Christian nation, even though a majority also acknowledged that doing so would violate the Constitution.
  • In the past, traditional conservative values celebrated religious liberty and pluralism, but with today’s MAGA-influenced Republican party, we’re seeing a shift towards a more exclusivist religious identity in politics.

Prominent Republican Figures Embracing Christian Nationalism and the idea of relying on the bible for public policy

  • Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene has openly called herself a “Christian nationalist” and stated that the GOP should embrace that identity.
  • Rep. Lauren Boebert of Colorado declared, “I’m tired of this separation of church and state junk,” and claimed, “the church is supposed to direct the government”.
  • Doug Mastriano, a Republican gubernatorial candidate in Pennsylvania, dismissed the separation of church and state as a “myth.”
  • Republican Speaker of the House Mike Johnson stated publicly that his Christian faith informs everything he does, shaping his perspective and views on law, policy, and public service. In an interview on Fox News, Johnson said, “Someone asked me today in the media, ‘People are curious, what does Mike Johnson think about any issue under the sun?’ I said, ‘Well, go pick up a Bible off your shelf and read it — that’s my worldview”

Christian Nationalism in Policy and Education

  • Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has promoted a Civics Literacy Excellence Initiative that reportedly teaches students that the Founders didn’t really believe in a strict separation of church and state.
  • In Louisiana, a new law mandates the display of the Ten Commandments in public school classrooms, raising concerns about government endorsement of religious doctrine.
  • Oklahoma incorporates the Bible into public school lessons (so much for religious neutrality in education — at least in Oklahoma).

Religious Identity as Political Identity

  • A leaked recording of Justice Samuel Alito advocating a “return to godliness” has heightened concerns about religious conservatism influencing the Supreme Court’s decisions.
  • A slew of bills introduced by Republican lawmakers have prioritize religious values in areas like abortion, LGBTQ+ rights, and school prayer — often citing biblical principles as justification.
  • The Republican base, infected by MAGA influencers and believers are increasingly made up of evangelical Christians, with many viewing their religious identity as inseparable from their political beliefs.

If we lived in a completely homogeneous society where everyone believed in the same version of Christianity (the version that preaches taking care of the impoverished and suffering, turning the other cheek, and loving your neighbor), then the danger to individual rights, free thinkers, and democracy might feel overblown.

But what we’re seeing with the growing numbers of MAGA-Christians in America is what we’ve seen with the more violent offshoots of Islam and the ultra-orthodox strains of Judaism — that Religious views can be interpreted differently by different groups and individuals, and when people with a literal or militant view of a religion come into power, be it in Israel, Iran, or the United States, they tend to push their specific interpretation of scripture to justify policies and laws that strip rights from the marginalized or anyone who doesn’t conform to their religious views. That is precisely what Madison warned us of when he said that if Congress could define “general welfare,” it might “take the care of religion into their own hands” — appointing teachers, funding churches, and undermining limited government.

There is a deepening divide between MAGA-aligned Evangelical Christian leaders and traditional non-political Christian leaders, which is altering the politics in our country and reshaping the landscape of religious institutions and churches from sea to shining sea. With some help from Arty, here’s a breakdown of how their views differ—and how those differences are playing out.

Key Differences in Christian Worldview

SubjectMAGA Evangelical LeadersTraditional Non-Political Christian Leaders
Role of Christianity in GovernmentAdvocate for Christian nationalism; believe America was founded as a Christian nation and should reflect biblical values in law and policySupport religious pluralism and separation of church and state; see faith as personal and communal, not political
Jesus’ TeachingsEmphasize moral absolutes, spiritual warfare, and cultural dominance (e.g., anti-abortion, anti-LGBTQ+ policies)Focus on compassion, justice, and inclusion—especially for marginalized groups like immigrants, the poor, and LGBTQ+ individuals3
Political EngagementHighly partisan, often aligning with Republican candidates and causes; some leaders openly support Donald Trump as a divinely chosen figureAvoid partisan politics; prioritize community service, peacemaking, and dialogue across divides3
View of OpponentsFrame political and cultural opponents as enemies of God or threats to religious freedom2Encourage empathy, bridge-building, and respectful disagreement—even with those outside the faith8

How This Division Is Manifesting

In Politics

  • Christian Nationalism Surge: MAGA leaders promote policies that elevate Christianity in public life, such as flying Christian flags on government property or restricting LGBTQ+ and racial justice symbols.
  • Partisan Loyalty: Many MAGA Evangelicals view Trump as a “warrior king” defending their values, even if his personal behavior contradicts traditional Christian ethics2.
  • Pushback from Traditional Christians: Leaders like Russell Moore and Jim Wallis have criticized this politicization, warning it distorts the gospel and undermines democracy10.

In Churches

  • Congregational Splits: Churches are fracturing over political allegiances. Some congregations have lost members due to COVID policies, racial justice sermons, or perceived political bias10.
  • Rise of “Refugee Christians”: Many believers are leaving MAGA-aligned churches in search of communities that prioritize spiritual growth over political ideology.
  • New Movements: Groups like Red Letter Christians and Evangelicals for Social Action are reclaiming Jesus’ teachings on justice and peace, distancing themselves from partisan culture wars.

The Bigger Picture

This Christian divide in America is not solely theological—it’s cultural, generational, and deeply emotional. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve listened to the grievances from MAGA Evangelicals, bemoaning about being under siege in America’s changing landscape. At the same time, traditional Christians look to adhere to a faith that transcends politics. The tension is reshaping denominations, remaking evangelicalism, and challenging what it means to follow Jesus in the 21st century.

Weirdly, with all the goings on in the Evangelical church related to the state of politics in America, Trump himself is not religious (even when he embarrassingly pretends to be). Unlike the Supreme Leader in Iran and the Hasidic Rebbes in Israel, Trump is a different type of Mullah, one motivated by money and a quest for power and attention, rather than deeply held religious beliefs.

Donald Trump (let’s call him the Moola Mullah) would make abortion mandatory if he thought it would win him an election or put some extra coin in his pocket. That said, Trump (like other Fascist leaders) is taking full advantage of the divide in the Evangelical church, siding with extremists in that movement to legitimize his rule, unify support, and suppress dissent.

We’re seeing the cultural amalgamation (especially in the Bible Belt region of the US) of a specific brand of “MAGA-infected” Republicanism with MAGA-infected Christianity, which seems to be the dominant version of Evangelical faith (or at least the loudest), and that should scare the shit out of true Christians, non-Christians, and non-believers alike.

But when it comes to Trump policies flying in the face of Christian values, those loud, hardline Evangelicals stuff their Bibles in their belts and become as quiet as church mice.

In the face of family separations, mass deportations, and reduced refugee admissions that are terrorizing immigrant communities in America, ALL Evangelicals should be protesting loudly based on these bible passages:

  • Leviticus 19:34 “The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt.” → This verse calls for equal treatment and love toward immigrants, reminding the Israelites of their own history as outsiders.
  • Deuteronomy 10:18–19 “He defends the cause of the fatherless and the widow, and loves the foreigner residing among you, giving them food and clothing. And you are to love those who are foreigners, for you yourselves were foreigners in Egypt.” → A direct command to care for and love immigrants, grounded in empathy and divine justice.
  • Matthew 25:35 “For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in.” → Jesus equates welcoming strangers with serving Him, making hospitality a spiritual imperative.
  • Exodus 22:21 “Do not mistreat or oppress a foreigner, for you were foreigners in Egypt.” → A warning against oppression, rooted in shared experience.
  • Zechariah 7:10 “Do not oppress the widow or the fatherless, the foreigner or the poor. Do not plot evil against each other.” → A broader call for justice and protection of vulnerable groups, including immigrants.

The meek might inherit the Earth, but they don’t run the show when religion and government become bedfellows. And so, in the face of Trump’s Gestapo tactics against immigrants, MAGA Evangelicals turn a blind eye, abandon the core principles of their faith, and become deaf as posts. Like all the cowards and traitors to the Christian faith in history, they know when to keep their mouths shut.

Let’s Ask Arty About the Impact DOGE Cuts had on Forecasting the July 4th Texas Flood

Let’s Ask Arty uses existing Artificial Intelligence (AI) technology to query LLMs about politics in these troubled times.

Query: Did DOGE cuts weaken Texas flood forecasting capabilities?

Yes, the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) cuts appear to have significantly weakened Texas’s flood forecasting capabilities, contributing to the tragic July 4 flooding in Kerr County.

The following list calls out the key impacts DOGE cuts had on forecasting and responding to the Texas flood:

  • Staffing Reductions: The National Weather Service (NWS) lost nearly 600 employees in early 2025, including critical roles like warning coordination meteorologists. These vacancies disrupted coordination with local emergency managers, delaying evacuation efforts.
  • Forecast Accuracy: The NWS forecast underestimated rainfall totals—predicting 4–8 inches in the Hill Country, while actual totals exceeded 15 inches in some areas. This gap was partly due to reduced resources, including fewer weather balloon launches used for atmospheric data2.
  • Warning Dissemination Delays: Although the NWS issued a flash flood emergency at 1:14 a.m., local alerts (like Kerrville Police’s Facebook post) didn’t go out until hours later, when the Guadalupe River had already surged over 20 feet3.
  • Systemic Vulnerabilities: DOGE cuts also affected NOAA’s broader operations, including climate research and disaster preparedness programs, leaving communities more exposed to extreme weather events.

Even Elon Musk’s AI tool, Grok 3, flagged these cuts as a contributing factor to the disaster, citing degraded forecasting and communication breakdowns.

It’s a sobering reminder of how vital real-time data and expert coordination are when nature turns volatile.

My Input

Texas is a MAGA map of where our country is heading as it relates to climate disasters, science, and religion.

Donald Trump is a climate-change-denying fool and shill of the fossil fuel industry, and Texas consistently carries water for him (to the detriment of its citizens). Well, as the old saying goes, the chickens have come home to roost, and in Texas, they roost over the dead bodies of children swept away by flood waters, incompetence, greed, and, yes, religion.

Texas has a strange history of injecting religion into the climate discussion, with Republican officials in the Lonestar state sometimes linking skepticism of climate change policy with religious beliefs, including the moronically simplistic and scientifically deaf idea that God controls the weather (If that’s the case, God must have been pretty pissed on July 4th, 2025).

In 2011, Governor Rick Perry’s official proclamation for “Days of Prayer for Rain” during a historic drought drew national attention, while Texas government officials have consistently downplayed climate science, even going so far as to sue the EPA over greenhouse gas regulations.

More recently, current Texas Governor Greg Abbot and several state legislators issued public statements indicating skepticism or resistance toward climate change policy, even in the face of increasing climate-related disasters.

Today, I’m waiting for the usual “God works in mysterious ways” suspects to appear on social media channels, in television news reports, and from church pulpits, telling Texans not to ask too many questions, including why a God who controls the weather simply didn’t prevent raging flood waters from sweeping children to a terrifying death.

And what’s worse in my mind is that the “it’s not for us to question God’s plan” madness is strategic — a way to get citizens to trust and submit to a higher power (be it religious or political) and sweep aside the possibility that we humans play a role in our destiny.

Just keep on keeping on.

Nothing to see here.

Why do we continue to put our blood, sweat, tears, blind faith, and money into a faulty, poorly thought-out, riddled with holes and inconsistencies, idea of God? Because doing so keeps us at bay and benefits those in power.

Hey, I’ve got an idea! Instead of relinquishing our destiny to a non-existent entity with zero accountability, let’s put our blood, sweat, tears, money, and good-faith efforts into developing our ability to learn, understand, and implement solutions to problems like climate change.

Let’s shift our approach from relying on thoughts, prayers, and avoiding questions to embracing innovation and action (including reinstating Government funding for key agencies that keep us safe). That way we can mitigate future human loss and suffering from tragedies like the flooding in Texas.

Just a thought.

In the meantime, let’s remember these facts from Arty about Texas politicians and climate change:

  • Texas lawmakers have repeatedly blocked bills that would require state agencies to plan for climate-related impacts. Since 2009, legislation mandating climate adaptation strategies has consistently failed to pass committee hearings.
  • In 2023, the only climate-related law passed was designed to prevent local governments (like El Paso) from implementing their climate mitigation policies.
  • Texas emits over 800 million tons of greenhouse gases annually—comparable to Germany—but has no comprehensive state climate plan.
  • Local governments, such as Dallas and Austin, have attempted to fill the gap with climate action plans; however, state-level resistance has hindered broader progress.
  • State Representative Matt Krause (2023): Krause criticized federal climate regulations, stating that “man cannot control the climate—only God can.” He argued that climate policies were economically harmful and ideologically driven.
  • Senator Bob Hall (2022): Hall dismissed climate science as “alarmist propaganda,” suggesting that weather patterns are part of a divine plan and not influenced by human activity. He has repeatedly opposed incentives for renewable energy.
  • General Legislative Pattern: As reported by MIT’s Climate Portal, Texas lawmakers have consistently blocked bills requiring state agencies to plan for climate impacts. Some legislators have described climate advocacy as a “cult,” framing environmentalism as a challenge to traditional values.

These views often coexist with efforts to protect fossil fuel industries and resist federal environmental regulations.

The Ballad of New Bobby and Joan

This is the ballad

of new Bobby and Joan

Fender guitar-lords

with truth microphones

a daredevil’s mission

to gather us all

to shake us, and wake us

to answer the call

The pressure’s been building

at a pace that is steady

our ship has been drifting

now the people are ready

New Bobby and Joan

are taking the stage

with fine-tuned stringed weapons

and words dipped in rage

Bob nods at the drummer

to get the show started

he counts the band in

to the dark and uncharted

They follow Bob’s lead

tag along for the ride

Joanie plays rhythm off to the side:

“Gather your courage

for a darkness awaits you

take aim at the hate

and the man who berates you

beware of cracked shadows

and words made of hay

of crowned jokers with pokers

who demand that you to pray

The pols and preachers

can’t show you the way

their pockets are lined

by the players that pay”

The crowd gives applause

and they nod in approval

they know what they need

it’s not change, but removal

Bob sets the tone

with a sneer and a growl

stalking the stage

like a tank on the prowl

Joanie steps forward

and smiles at Bobby

she’s not just his muse

and she’s more than a hobby

Bobby sees Joanie step up to the mic

she covers terrain, like a train on a spike

“We’re zip-tied and tongue tied

by Silicon Valley

Kidnapped by agents

who crouch in the alley

we live in a land

that is free of the brave

led by a felon

both cruel and depraved

The dream we living

turns silkweed to ashes

torched by the rich

and the market that crashes

Elon and Donny

are having a spat

while democracy dies

in a GPT chat

Bobby steps forward

his guitar is smoking

there’s blood on the frets

of the Fender he’s choking

Joanie steps back

away from the light

Bobby’s a star

that eclipses the night

“The system ain’t broken

it works as intended

in the times we’re living

the truth isn’t rendered

when God taints your money

the peril is real

there’s no milk and honey

just poisonous zeal

where the rich just get richer

the poor get to bleed

just to get stitched up

and ground into seed


Joanie steps forward

and together they sing

the sad but true story

of men kissing the ring

“They tip toe through crypto

and heap praise on their king

in the land of bent knees

and the home of the bling

They take jets from Qutar

and cut aid to the poor

plan missions to Mars

and sell weapons for war

I don’t know about you,

but I can’t take anymore

It’s time to take names

and kick down the door

The last chord rings out

the cheers earn them their wage

they turn away from the mic

and they walk off the stage

This is the ballad

of new Bobby and Joan

Fender guitar-lords

with truth microphones

Toshi

The gig’s over Toshi, idealism’s dead

The devil wear’s Prada, and fucks with our head

The star that we followed, has died in our bed

The gig’s over Toshi, it hangs in the shed

The gig’s over Toshi, I wish it weren’t true

the cruelty has grossly been poured in the brew

and drank with a gusto by the poisonous few

then shot out as arrows at both me and you

The gig we were chasing was as false as the sky

the horizon was crooked, and we couldn’t pry

the truth from the Wellstone, that was you and I

the gig’s over Toshi, in the blink of an eye

No Kings

Oligarchal Kings

are here to clip your wings

to tell you how to pray

what to feel and what to say

what to teach and who to love

who to push and who to shove

to curb your speech and cuff your hands

to make you kneel or make you stand

to make you see and make you hear

to make you stay or disappear

Oligarchal kings

are here to clip your wings

strip the marrow from your bones

make you bow before the throne

control the information flow

on what to learn and what to know

to kill the spirit of the free

to kill the truth of you and me

The oligarchs and kings

are here to clip your wings

Tipping Point

A squeaky tank rolling
embarrasses Donny
Israeli aggression
all flexy and brawny

Assassin in Sota
a lawmaker dead
Handcuffs and facemasks
and ICE in our bed

Elon says Donny
and Epstein
were besties
Donny says Elon
is overly testy

Tucker warns Donny
about going to war
While Benny and Donny
keep settling scores

Tulsi tells Donny
The nuke story’s bullshit
Donny tells Gabbard
to get off her pulpit

Padilla gets bullied
and pushed to the floor
Cosplaying Himmler,
Noem shows him the door

Don asks the G8
why Putin is missing
The G8 tells Donny
to stop the ass kissing

Donny gets angry
and leaves in a huff
When will we say that
Enough is Enough?

The Yellow Tangerine

Sing to the cadence of “Yellow Submarine” by the Beatles.

In the town
where I was born
lived a boy
of wealth and greed

and his dad
was full of scorn
at his mediocrity

The child failed
in many ways
and wasn’t liked
by anyone

Dodged the draft
and spent his days
trying to shaft
the moon and sun

Now . .

We all know
he’s a yellow tangerine
yellow tangerine,
yellow tangerine

We all know
he’s a yellow tangerine
yellow tangerine
yellow tangerine

Russia knew
his debt had grown
So, they groomed the tangerine
and they threw
this Don a bone
To help him beat
ole Hillary

Now . . .

We all live
in a Donald Trump regime
a Donald Trump regime
a Donald Trump regime

We all live
in a Donald Trump regime
a Donald Trump regime
a Donald Trump regime

Bezos, Musk,
and Lindsay Graham
Zuckerberg
and Taylor Green

create the grift
inside the scam
that’s getting more
and more obscene

Now . . .

We all live
in a Donald Trump regime
a Donald Trump regime
a Donald Trump regime

We all live
in a Donald Trump regime
a Donald Trump regime
a Donald Trump regime

Epstein’s list
of pedophiles
is of course a great concern

that is why
the Tangerine
wants the congress to adjourn

He’s a crook
and fascist thug
a narcissist extraordinaire

But to some
he is a drug to help them deal
with their despair

So . .

We all live
in a Donald Trump regime
a Donald Trump regime
a Donald Trump regime

We all live
in a Donald Trump regime
a Donald Trump regime
a Donald Trump regime

Donny Paints the Sky in Sorrow

Sing to the tune of “Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds” by the Beatles

Picture a man with some bloat on his liver
with raked yellow hair and marmalade thighs
He steps to the mic and opens his pie-hole
this man with blue pinholes for eyes

White MAGA letters on foreheads and tees
Flow in a sea of blood red
Look for the hope and the sun in the sky
And it’s gone

Donny paints the sky in sorrow
Donny paints the sky in sorrow
Donny paints the sky in sorrow, ahh

Follow him down to a fridge in the basement
Where sweet chocolate sundaes are in full supply
Everyone screams as he gets in the shower
With swastika shampoo and pie

Bullet-proof limos appear on the shore
Waiting to take him away
Climbs in the back and he waves at the crowds
And he’s gone

Donny paints the sky in sorrow
Donny paints the sky in sorrow
Donny paints the sky in sorrow, ahh

For the Benefit of Vladimir

Sing to the tune of Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite by the Beatles

For the benefit of Vladimir
A sourpuss that’s insincere, a criminal
JD and Trump will kiss his ass to lend support for his morass
is seminal.
Soldier men and forces, bombs and bosses,
Jumping through a hog’s head of real fire.
with a sneer Vladimir will challenge the world!

Inebriated Vladimir
lays down a beat on Saturday, at Ukraine’s gate.
A Russian Bear will dance and sing
As Rubio bows to a King, a coward’s fate
Mess’rs P. and T. assure the public
their protection will be lesser than none.
and of course, NATO the Horse, dances alone

The bombs begin at ten to six
When Vladimir performs his tricks without a sound
And Mister T. will demonstrate
There’re things he can’t resuscitate from underground
Having stuck the knife with devastation
A bloody time is guaranteed for all
And tonight, Vladimer is having a ball

He Throws Due Process Out the Window

Sing to the tune of “She Came in through the Bathroom Window” by the Beatles

He throws due process out the window

kidnapping people on the street

Sec Defense Pete said he didn’t know

about Signal App security

Didn’t anybody tell us?

Didn’t anybody see?

Trump’s a dirty rotten scoundrel

with morons in proximity

He claims to always have the answer

he’s golfing every single day

to the nation’s chances he’s a cancer

and three-term Don won’t go away

Bobby Junior’s a vax denier

He’s making money off his claims

He shovels coal into the fire

To fuel the anti-science train

Didn’t anybody tell us?

Didn’t anybody see?

Trump‘s a dirty rotten scoundrel

with morons in proximity

The Chinese cat we tried to declaw 

is more resilient than he showed

We can’t get off the tariff seesaw

consumer confidence erodes

Didn’t anybody tell us?

Didn’t anybody see?

Trump‘s a dirty rotten scoundrel

with morons in proximity